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--- meetings:workshop [2007/03/10 13:17] – Add me to the list of "experts" willing to help. ralph
+++ meetings:workshop [2007/04/06 09:24] – Added possibility of new (old) venue terry
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 ====== Resurrected Workshops ======
-===== Intro =====
+===== Introduction =====
-At the social Meeting on 3rd May 2006, we discussed the options for a Workshop Meeting.  We thought it had become possible because a new member offered to make a suitable venue available to us.  However, since then, the venue fell through, but rather than waste the work done, the ideas presented are preserved in case an opportunity arises to carry them through.
-We had a number of people express their support on the Mailing List with several suggestions made.  The consensus on the list out of 19 people was that most preferred a weekend, out of those a Sunday came up most often.  After discussion, the favourite suggestion was a series of workshops leading to a full build of Linux from Scratch.
+At the [[pub-2007-04-04-rc|Pub Meet on 4th April 2007]], James returned after an absence of nearly two years.  He is still able to get the use of a room at the University and so we can resurrect the Workshop Meetings.  He would prefer a Saturday, (although Sunday is a possibility), and all we have to do is sort out the agenda etc. About a year ago, we thought a location had been found because a new member offered to make a suitable venue available to us.  However, the venue fell through, but the ideas from then, in particular the [[meetings:pub|social meeting]] on 2006-05-03 and the [[:mailing_list|mailing list]], were preserved. If this is still a goer, lets get it rolling; otherwise, get those suggestions rolling in!
-===== Proposal =====
+===== Linux from Scratch Proposal =====
-So here is what we think could work well:
+After discussion, the favourite suggestion was a series of workshops leading to
-  - At the first meeting, everyone who can bring a box installs VMWare.
+a full build of [[http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/|Linux from Scratch]].  This
+would let people learn the nuts and bolts of how a Linux system comes together,
+from the boot loader, the kernel, init(8), getty(8), and a shell prompt.
+So here is what we think could work well.
+  - At the first meeting, everyone who can bring a box installs VMWare, or perhaps [[http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/about.html|Qemu]] as a more free alternative.
   - We then begin the process of building Linux from Scratch inside the virtual machine.
-  - At the end of the session, we save the image so far.
+  - At the end of the session we save the image so far ready to continue next time.
-Using VMWare will allow us to carry on where we left off at subsequent meetings, thus solving the biggest obstacle to creating a Linux from Scratch installation; the long compile times.
+Using a machine emulator will allow us to carry on where we left off at
+subsequent meetings, thus solving the biggest obstacle to creating a Linux from
+Scratch installation;  the long compile times.  Perhaps
+[[http://ccache.samba.org/|ccache]] or [[http://distcc.samba.org/|distcc]] can
+be used to help cut these down.
-Talking of long compile times, we will then have some spare time for chatting/other activities.  If anyone who hasn't got a Linux installation yet and wants to come along, we can have a Mini-Install-fest alongside the main event.  Other people have asked for a media server, so that could be another sideshow.  (I think two other events are enough, but please add your thoughts.)
+===== Alternative Proposals =====
+Talking of long compile times, we will then have some spare time for
+chatting/other activities.  If anyone who hasn't got a Linux installation yet
+and wants to come along, we can have a Mini-Install-fest alongside the main
+event.  Other people have asked for a media server, so that could be another
+sideshow.  Two other events are probably enough, but if you'd like to see other
+activities take place rather than Linux from Scratch please put them here or
+raise it on the [[:mailing_list|mailing list]].
 ===== Organisation =====
-==== Date: ====
+==== Date ====
-A Sunday to be determined.
-==== Venue: ====
+A Saturday (or possibly a Sunday).
-To be dertermined.
+==== Venue ====
+Bournemouth University, Wallisdown.
+==== Transport ====
+The University is on a bus route, but quite a way from a Railway Station.  For the original venue we had offers of lifts from:
-==== Transport: ====
-For the original venue we had offers of lifts from:
   * Corfe Mullen
   * Bournemouth
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 This will obviously be subject to change when a venue becomes available.
-==== Equipment: ====
+==== Equipment ====
 We probably need:
   * patch leads
   * projector
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 ==== Experts ====
-If you can help guide the rest of us, please put your names here, with skill offered:
+If you can help guide the rest of us, please put your names here, with skill offered.
   * Terry Coles.  Installation, media server (audio only at present).
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     * Basic Internet principles, e.g. TCP/IP, DNS, SMTP, POP3, FTP, HTTP, SSH.
   * Robin Shepheard, enthusiastic amateur.  While I can't call myself an expert in any field, I am more than willing to help out in any way I can. I have experience with networking, building Gentoo (well I have done it a few times) and I have played with a fair few distros and have a bit of experience with WIFI cards, oh and have a reasonable experience of vmware. Only possible problem I have is that about every other Sunday I am back in Sussex so a reasonable amount of warning is neccesary. Oh and I can download and burn to disc (cd/dvd) any distros that we may need for the workshop.